The padel courts are an amazing addition to the only sports and health facilities in thearea. The social and wellbeing opportunities which are also provided cannot be under estimated.

There was already a court on this space, and the tiny amount of bramble that was removed wouldhave insignificant impact on wildlife given the high level of existing activity in that area.

Any potential concerns about light pollution could easily be addressed with timers fitted to the floodlights and hoods around the fixings; but I notice that the flood lights are already relatively short, sowould imagine impact is low.

I feel the Paddle courts should stay so the younger generation can have the opportunityto play the game locally

Dear Bristol Planning Committee,

I am writing to express my concerns regarding the proposed extension of Padel courts and Spafacilities at David Lloyd Westbury, Bristol. Following the updated application, I raise a concern forthe choice of non-native plants for the landscaping of the proposed.

This choice of planting has a ripple effect throughout the ecosystem, affecting not just plant life,but also the insects, birds, and other wildlife that rely on native plants for food and habitat. Theycan alter soil chemistry and can often be more resistant to local pests and diseases, giving theman unfair advantage over native species. Due to this choice the urban areas are turning to a monoculture of Viburnum Davidii and Lonicera Nitida; reducing overall biodiversity.

The choice of non-native plants (of which two are chosen only) is in direct contradiction to themany concerns expressed by local residents about the impact of the proposed extension on localnature and demonstrates David Lloyd's and Bristol City Council's distain for opinions, concernsand the green city we all call home.This is consistent with ignoring BCC's own Biodiversity Action Plan under the to "Promotebiodiversity conservation as an essential element of sustainable development".

I urge the planning committee to reconsider the landscaping plans for the proposed extension -why is Bristol not inspiring the UK or world with a commitment to preserving and enhancing localbiodiversity just has it has with other important social and cultural topics.

Thank you for considering my objection.

I have received your letter dated 14 March and immediately checked your website toview the revised details of this application.I am concerned that there is not any revised details concerning the flood lighting on these padelcourts.These flood lights still shine very brightly into our windows at night and this has been worse by thecutting back of the trees surrounding these courts.There has been some objections regarding the extra traffic using this leisure club, but no mentionthat the bus service that could reduce some of this traffic has been removed.

I have read the "Supporting Document" entitled Ground Level Tree Assessment and it isnot about trees as such - it is about bat roosts.My comments' following the recently submitted documents remain - it is clear that the David Lloydcompany removed trees that they owned, and allegedly some that they did not own, to facilitatethis development. The number of trees they removed should be assessed and mitigation for theirloss insisted upon. Their actions show a flagrant disregard for planning regulation and a disregardfor the amenity provided by the local green infrastructure. The Friends of Badock Wood havewritten eloquently on this Application. Despite the length of their submission there is not a wastedword. If ever there was a case for the enforcement of planning regulation then this is it. There is afeeling of a creeping destruction of the quality of life for those who have the misfortune to liveclose by this establishment, be they human or animal.

This is already a very busy are now. More traffic congestion, noise pollution and morenoise from the leisure facility. This will cause further disturbance to my residence. Cars are alreadyparking on the curbs around the facility.

I understand that trees have already been cut down before Retrospective PlanningPermission was sought. I am extremely concerned about the impact of noise and light pollution onthe nocturnal wildlife of Badock's Wood. This small Gem of a wood should be cherished andprotected by The City Council. The Woods survival and development is remarkable and increasingDavid Lloyds profits must not be allowed to diminish this wonderful habitat in anyway.

Hi

Re David Lloyd Padel Courte

It seems that some objections/ comments seem to apply to both the padel courts andspa combined. People are referring to the flood lights / padel courts but then putting onthe number for the spa. It's quite confusing for them.

Will you do something about that as in this instance it it clearly also directed at the padelcourts!

As stated, this is a scheme of works and both applications should have been looked atin the round.

Sadly people are now confused or referring to both applications in their objections.

Thanks

I am concerned about the impact on the environment and the residents living in the areaof the site. I have read about the wildlife which lives in the nearby area, Badocks wood and theneighbouring vegetation and I cannot agreevwith David Lloyd that they can keep the disturbanceto a minimum, with flood lighting and increased use of this space. Whilst I sympathise with DavidLloyd rhat they want offer their members greater facilities I cannot support their application.

The courts are well hidden and very popular. Bristol is becoming a top venue for thisnew sport. As a 62 year old man it is fantastic for health of over 50s being smaller than tennis. Isupport the courts.

The floodlighting adds to the already heavy light pollution affecting Badock's Woods.Songbirds are singing late at night when they should be sleeping; this will affect their ability tosurvive the winter and to reproduce in the spring. It is also disturbing the many other species wholive in the woods, reducing their survival and contributing to biodiversity loss. Therefore the lightsshould not be used on these courts.

The removal of trees and vegetation have also contributed to the damage done to this LocalGreen Space and its wildlife. At the very least there should be a replanting scheme which includesthe replacement of the trees lost.

Noise and lighting levels from this development are having a negative impact on thesurrounding environment and the wildlife present in Badocks Wood .

Please keep the padel courts!

Padel is a game that has exploded in popularity across the UK with many centresopening up around Bristol. However, there are non available in the immediate area. It is importantthat the resource be kept for use.I support placing restrictions on the hours of use and lighting, but there is no reason for thewithdrawal of the facilities.

The Padel courts are very good and shouldn't be removed

Very good use of space! No neighbours close! Lights not facing houses! No noise!Amazing for our members and local community!

Friends of Badock's Wood OBJECTS strongly to this proposal and has submitted adetailed objection to the proposal including a lot of wildlife information.This is just to clarify forother readers of the planning documents, that the City Council has advised us that "the publicversion has been redacted to protect information about the protected species, such as sightingsand habitat locations etc." This is why there are large areas of black in the document!

The paddle courts are very popular and many people are enjoying it! Great use of space

The light pollution coming from the flood lights at the David Lloyd ctr is appalling - ourgarden backs on to baddocks wood at the Doncaster road end of lake road, and the garden is nowbathed in light all night, the back bedroom is flooded with light and it is disturbing everyone's rest!

Our garden is now bathed in light all night from the flood lighting that is never turned off- we have had to move from the back bedroom because it is so disturbing

I Support the Padel courts at David Lloyd Westbury

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Summary of our OBJECTIONS

1. Adverse Impact on local wildlife and no ecological survey of any sort2. Adverse Impact on enjoyment of Badock’s Wood site by the local community (impact on Amenity)3. Lighting impacts4. Noise impacts5. Contrary to Local Plan Policies BG1, BG2, BG3, BG4 and NZC16. Increased traffic and parking issues

If planning permission is to be given CONDITIONS need to be added:

Proposed CONDITIONS1. Lighting to be in the wildlife friendly spectrum not standard LED2. Lighting to be reduced in height to prevent external off-site spillage by using more columns at a lower

height.3. Lighting not to operate outside of operating hours of David Lloyd Club4. Restrict hours of play on the padel courts to limit noise impacts on neighbouring sites, particularly at

the start and end of the Club’s opening hours.5. Restrict maximum permitted dB at different times of the day to reflect the low dB ambient noise

levels.6. No amplified music that can be heard beyond the curtilage of the site7. Proposal needs to comply with Local Plan policies BCS14 and BCS15 and BG1, BG2, BG3, BG48. Proposal needs to comply with Local Plan policies on Net Zero and Climate Change, NZC1 and David

Lloyd’s own sustainability policies – including removal of electric patio heaters. We note that theapplicant themselves has referred to this Local Plan accepting that it has weight prior to its adoption.

9. Proposal needs to comply with BG1 which does not permit artificial grass10. Acoustic roof and walls need to be installed in order to significantly reduce any sound escape from the

site11. Proposal needs to comply with BG1 and add green infrastructure such as green walls, roofs,

sustainable urban drainage, etc.

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Wildlife Impacts, Nature Recovery and the Ecological EmergencyBadock’s Wood is the immediate neighbour of David Lloyd Greystoke Avenue to the South.

Badock’s Wood is a designated Site of Nature Conservation Interest (SNCI), a designated Local NatureReserve (LNR) and listed in the extant Local Plan as a site of Important Open Space and in the new Local Planas Local Green Space. The whole of the site is Local Green Space of the highest quality because it meets all 5criteria for this designation in the National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF). The criteria are: beauty,tranquillity, richness of wildlife, historic significance and recreational value.

Badock’s Wood is one of just 11 sites across the whole of Bristol that scored on all of these criteria. Bristolhas hundreds of Green Open Spaces listed for protection in the Local Plan so to be one of only 11 to meet all5 criteria is an indication of just how special this site is.

Badock’s Wood and the green spaces around it all form part of a wildlife corridor and these provideprotection and a buffer for the wildlife in the SNCI. Hedgerows are key natural features that provideimportant habitat, nesting and foraging sites and are particularly important in wildlife corridors.

The David Lloyd site is already the major source of pervasive industrial noise and light pollution to nature onthe BW site; these developments can only make that worse. The industrial noise of plant from the DavidLloyd site is very intrusive and constant.

The applicant has failed to undertake any form of environmental or ecological impact assessment. Thereforewe, Friends of Badock’s Wood, will provide wildlife and other environmental information to put their site andthis application into the appropriate context for its location.

Starting with the applicant’s Planning Application Form.

The applicant has answered “no” on the Planning application Form to the question “Are there trees orhedges on the proposed development site?” That being the case one has to question why David Lloyd hasremoved trees and hedges from the area if they were none within the development site? The applicant hastherefore removed trees from outside of the development site in order to facilitate the development.Similarly the application for the spa garden on the same David Lloyd site a few metres from this proposeddevelopment, has been criticised strongly by the Council’s arboricultural representative who feels that, thatapplication has an inadequate tree protection plan. This disregard for the nature both within and withoutthe site is of concern. If the spa garden proposal was to go ahead as proposed, the likely harm to the on sitetrees, or even extensive pruning which is suggested by the Council’s response as something that might be anundesirable outcome, could increase the intrusion of the activities from both developments in terms ofnoise, light etc without the trees acting as buffers.

We can see NO mention in this application of the site being adjacent to an important public open space andwildlife habitat. There is no ecological impact report and this needs to be properly assessed before anyplanning permissions are determined.

The field adjacent to the David Lloyd site is managed for wildlife andis not in use as a playing field, identified by the City Council in 2022as a site for greater management for wildlife under their Managingfor Nature project. An update of the Badock’s Wood ManagementPlan is being finalised and should include the nature managementregime. However, a casual visitor to the site can immediately seethat this is clearly not a playing field and would not be suitable forsports use. See photo – which also clearly shows a nest site in a treeadjacent to the proposed spa garden site (the subject of anotherseparate application for this site which together with thisapplication will have a negative effect on the wellbeing of both thewildlife and the human users of Badock’s Wood.

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Climate ImpactsThe use of Artificial Grass which is proposed in this application is contrary to the Local Plan policies and is notpermitted. Not only are the padel courts covered in blue artificial grass , but we understand a large socialarea has also been covered in white artificial grass as part of the development, in an area not being used forsport.

Policy BG1: Green infrastructure and biodiversity in new development refers.

The policy text states:“Artificial grassDevelopments should not include artificial grass within their landscape schemes or as part of the provision ofprivate or communal open space.”

SustainabilityOutdoor Heating

The Planning Statement makes no mention of patio heater lamps in its description of the social area nor inthe Design and Access Statement (though they are shown in the indicative photos) and no mention is madeof them anywhere in the application.

Installation of patio heaters is completely unsustainable, inappropriate and contrary to the Local Plan Policyon Net Zero and Climate change, such as NZC1: Climate change, sustainable design and construction.

There is nothing about the energy and carbon cost of these and these heaters contradict the applicant’sSustainability policies and assertion that David Lloyd will achieve Net Zero by 2030. Patio heaters are not theway to do that, especially with no on site renewables.

These heat lamps are completely unsustainable and unethical in the current climate emergency. Theseshould not be on any part of the site and if members want to sit outside, the current thinking in sustainablebusinesses is to provide throws and hot drinks to keep people warm, not climate busting electric patioheaters and alcohol. That would be the sustainable thing to do and would be in line with the company’savowed intention to achieve Net Zero by 2030. See https://www.davidlloyd.co.uk/david-lloyd-leisure-press/sustainability-release and David Lloyd company’s stated sustainability commitment- https://www.davidlloyd.co.uk/news/sustainability-commitment

If the padel courts were indoor courts – either replacing other existing indoor courts as has been the case atother David Lloyd sites, or constructing an acoustic box around the new padel courts, then there would be noneed for either artificial grass nor floodlighting and the impacts on the neighbours and the wildlife habitatswould be minimised.

Site DrainageThe planning application form states that surface water will be disposed of through “sustainable drainagesystem” but there is nothing in their plans or associated documents relating to site drainage.

Currently run off from the David Lloyd car park, and presumably other outdoor areas, drain into the surfacedrains. The run off is channelled through a pipe underneath Badock’s Wood and down an outfall (an artificialwaterfall) into the River Trym, close to where it leaves Badock’s Wood and enters the Westbury Wildlife Parksite. This channel has been the cause of a number of pollution incidents, particularly related to the car washdischarges. There are still water quality issues from the run off from the David Lloyd site – with one surveyrecording “the runoff channel itself was heavily covered in algae and contained a soapy solution” and “[thewaterfall was] heavily covered in algae suggesting high nutrient concentrations promoting algal growth, thiscould pose future issues of eutrophication and deoxygenation”. The algae on the outfall is clearly visible as itis a brighter green than any of the other areas and is often remarked upon by visitors. Anything whichincreases this pollution of the River Trym would not be acceptable. Having a plastic surface (the artificialgrass) draining into the river would bring with it micro plastic pollution as there will be small amounts of the

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Planning ContextThe applicant chooses to highlight the following points in their Planning Statement:“Principle of Development6.2 The NPPF [National Planning Policy Framework] recognises the importance of sports and recreationfacilities as key mechanisms which can promote ‘healthy and safe communities’ (Chapter 8). The Frameworkstates that planning policies should aim to achieve healthy, inclusive and safe places which:“enable andsupport healthy lifestyles, especially where this would address identified local health and well-being needs –for example through the provision of safe and accessible green infrastructure, sports facilities, local shops,access to healthier food, allotments and layouts that encourage walking and cycling.”6.3 Chapter 8 of the NPPF continues to highlight the importance of having “access to a network of high-quality open spaces and opportunities for sport and physical activity” for the well-being and health ofcommunities.

6.4 At the local level, Core Strategy Policy BCS12 (Community Facilities) supports the retention andenhancement of recreation and sports facilities. Policy DM14 (The Health Impacts of Development) promotesdevelopment which will enable healthy lifestyles and good access to health facilities, in turn, improving thehealth and wellbeing of the local population.

6.5 Core Strategy Policy BCS20 (Effective and Efficient Use of Land) seeks to maximise pportunities toreuse previously developed land.”

However, whilst Friends of Badock’s Wood would strongly support the concept of healthy lifestyles, especiallyin an outdoor environment, the club is promoting the “social area” next to the padel courts as a sports barwhere they will offer burgers and half price beer – a far cry from healthy lifestyles. The applicant may seek toargue that the sale of alcohol supports the sporting activities and is necessary for their business. David Lloydis not a struggling business and their own reports show strong financial viability:https://www.davidlloyd.co.uk/-/media/david-lloyd/files/accounts/david-lloyd-clubs-half-year-trading-statement-sept-2023.pdf?la=en&hash=BD4DA804D219CE73632157F153E484F9ED9FA263

Similarly they refer to the importance of having access to a network of high quality open spaces, with whichwe concur. But David Lloyd’s club does not offer this nor propose anything which would improve anyone’saccess to high quality open spaces. Moreover, their proposal has in fact walled in open space with glasswalls, it is not a high quality open space and as a private members club which draws very few of itsmembership from Southmead it is not providing any significant improvement for the health and well being ofthe local population. Not causing a detriment to the free enjoyment of the adjacent public open green spacethrough the undoubted impacts of the padel courts, music and external TV and socialising area wouldachieve far more for the local population, both human and wildlife.

The references to “accessible green infrastructure, sports facilities, local shops, access to healthier food,allotments and layouts that encourage walking and cycling” is baffling. The cost of being a member of theDavid Lloyd private members club does not make it “accessible”, allotments and local shops are irrelevantand especially given that members are not primarily drawn from the local community of Southmead

In addition only the highest price membership categories will have padel access included in the membershipcosts. The basic membership levels that start at around £1000 a year do not even include access to anyracquets facilities on offer within the clubs. https://www.davidlloyd.co.uk/memberships/

The Planning Statement states this development is “in response to Members’ needs” however it has beenwidely reported in the press that the David Lloyd company wants to position itself in the UK as a majorprovider of padel courts and to that end have even been replacing squash courts in some of its sites withpadel courts.

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Their Statement says:“6.8 Furthermore, the proposal site currently represents significantly under-utilised land within theapplicant’s ownership. Paragraph 119 of the NPPF and Core Strategy Policy BCS20 outlines that planningdecisions should promote an effective use of land, making as much use as possible of previously developedland. This proposal seeks to enhance the use of an already developed site and makes efficient use of land byreplacing an underused tennis court with two padel courts.

6.9 Considering the national and local policy position above, the proposal for enhancing and increasingthe sports and recreational facilities at this site via the development increases Members’ access to a varietyof sport and recreational uses and therefore, is supported in principle and accords with the requirements ofthe NPPF, Local Plan and emerging Local Plan.”

They are really stretching credulity here. The site they refer to, absolutely does not represent “significantlyunder-utilised land”. What they have done is place the two courts on the site of the tennis court andextended it by cutting down some of the trees / hedges next to the court and the outdoor swimming pool.They have also taken some of the width of the tennis court area to build a heated outdoor bar with widescreen TV for drinking, eating and usage as a sports bar. A cursory look at their submitted site plans make itobvious that there was not, and never has been, a significant area of land there not being used.

In paragraph 6.15 they state “The facilities fall within the existing club boundary and are screenedby extensive vegetation on the site’s western boundary.” Given that this document was created after theclub had already cut down a number of trees and hedges that constituted “extensive vegetation” around thecourt it really very disingenuous to say this. Of course what needs to happen, as other objectors andcomments on this application have also stated, is for the trees and hedges to be reinstated as soon aspossible.

The objection from Westbury on Trym Society hasincluded these photos taken from the public footpathto illustrate this point.

Please keep Friends of Badock’s Wood updated on this planning application and ensure that we areconsulted on all planning proposals in the Badock’s Wood area.

It is unbelievable that DL did not know they had to get planning permission forfloodlighting. Also for altering the premises by installing padel courts. The planning committee isurged to show they have teeth and are willing to insist on the rules. This company is flagrantlydisregarding neighbouring residents. If they had applied for planning permission then anenvironmental investigation would be done which would have included the consideration of theproximity of Badocks Wood. I presume this is what they wished to avoid and hope that theplanning committee would just roll over and give the retrospective permission. Local governmentdoesn't or shouldn't work like that. The committees are there for a purpose for everyone'swellbeing. Maybe they could consider making the company totally dismantle what they haveillegally built?

It has now transpired that DL have also forgotten to apply for planning for 5 Padelcourts, social area and floodlighting at Ellemere Port. see local news report. I am reallyworried that this will not be all.

They say that too was a mistake

* DL have the use of highly knowledgeable and reputable Lichfield agents up and downthe country for their spa applications. Clearly it would have cost next to nothingrelatively speaking to make one simple call to them to ask before embarking on ahundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds project to install padel courts up anddown the country.

* It really beggars belief that such a large organisation with its extensively used planningagents did not think it just might be a good idea to make that relatively cheap and quickcall to their professional and reputable agents before embarking on this programme ofpadel courts. If nothing else it's gross incompetence and given the level of expenditure itmust be quite high up incompetence, Padel courts are not cheap. Reputable Lichfield'swould have immediately been able to say yes it's needed in what would have been arelatively short call - it's not a complex area of planning.

* Moreover, a simple google search tells them that planning is needed for padel.

* Even the man on the street knows that flood lights require planning in a hitherto darkarea.

* Are we really meant to believe that directors of a multi billion pound SPORTScompany are that incompetent? They don't know planning laws around flood lights?They run a sports club. If they are that incompetent they should get new jobs and not bein charge of sports landholdings.

Is it a national embarrassment, wilful ignorance or a deliberate ploy for the so calledpremier sports club. Which on is it?

However given that they had I think hithero close associations with the LTA (via an exdirector Lloyd himself) and in general it seems even harder to believe. Thisorganisation itself provides clear advice that planning is required it is even harder tocomprehend how they did this. They could have called the LTA for goodness sake. Oram I mistaken and they have little to do with the LTA.

What we do know I believe is that DL's proudly announced determination to become theforemost padel provider in the UK.

Planning really need to give consideration as to why they did this without planning andwhether it was deliberate.

To that ends, a really pertinent question is this, having been told by BCC planning thatplanning was needed, what did they do? Did they act with due diligence and integritythereafter and checked their entire land estate and made retrospective planningapplications in all other areas where this might have occurred as soon as informed byLichfields that planning was indeed required. This points to probity and integrity. I assertthat It points to the question of whether this might have been a deliberate acts. If theykept quiet about all their other padel courts assuming they were also built withoutplanning. this says it all in my mind. So what have they done to 'regularise' the situationsince December or are they waiting to be caught out and keeping quiet?

It's not fair to the public impacted by this.

The average non business person might be aware of the inconvenience of havingnoise, lights but they won't know that DL should have or did not apply for planning. It'sup to DL to act with integrity so how long has it been since they discovered theiralleged mistake and what have they done about it? Are they acting now with integrityand 'regularising' the position everywhere. For some people it's not regularising- if Ilived 85 meters away I would be hacked off.

Put simply - have they obtained planning for all their external padel courts. If they have -then why not for Westbury and if they have not, why? They dismiss it as a simplemistake. Whichever way it it - it's really really bad to not care about their communitieslike this.

Given the possible nationwide scale of this a simple 'it was a mistake but after a call tothem … ' it's not good enough. DL should have said we will check each and everypadel court and obtain planning permission if they were not obtained and come clean.There is no way I think to spin this either they got planning for all the other externalpadel courts just not Westbury/ Ellesmere Port - if so why not - or they did not botherwith any of them.

One more point. One would assume that any international padel provider would beaware of developments elsewhere in Europe especially in the Netherlands. I suspectthat this is likely to be a rule that would be adopted elsewhere. The Netherlands haveengaged with truly independent experts in padel noise which are available to be lookedat by BCC planning especially as no doubt DL will engage their noise expert to say nodoubt there is no issues. This was a special task force initiated by Dutch TennisAssociation KNLTB and therefore highly reputable. There were several noise expertsengaged with this guidance. They estimate that padel matches are 20 db louder thantennis matches and in this instance there is double the effect as one tennis court wasreplaced with 2 padel courts. So we have several experts telling us this . TheNetherlands now forbids any padel courts within 100 - 150 meters of housing.The planis to encourage a healthy coexistence between communities and padel.

These padel courts are well within 100- 150 meters of housing.Not nice for those houses yet alone the wildlife and insects they forage on who areimpacted by noise.

My own view is that when a reputable government and authorities such as theNetherlands have done extensive work on the sound of padel using world class expertsin noise this needs to be considered here over any individual noise expert with his basicequipment.

Incidentally DL is also in the Netherlands so must be aware, one assumes/ suspects ofthose rules as well as the increasing need to use methods to silence the court. Thisincludes sound absorbing barriers or different surfaces eg fibre glass instead of iron thatvibrates less etc. That rule can into effect I think in October 2023 but we're beingdeliberated for some time beforehand.

The statement made to the newspapers that a tennis court would require more lightingis I believe a disgrace and shows more contempt I think. I I suspect that there wasnever any flood lighting there for tennis hitherto it was a dark area. I have photos of thepre existing tennis court if required lifted from social media . I can't see any floodlights.It's a complete nonsense of a statement. Again to me, it suggests a lack of integrityeven seeking to spin the reality - it appears to me, in my opinion.

The whole thing is one big shambles.

I have already commentated but wish to add that It has now transpired that DL have also forgottento apply for planning for 5 Padel courts, social area and floodlighting at Ellemere Port. Insusoecrthat this is not the only one. They have been opening up padel courts as quickly as possible.

Are they really suggesting it was a 'mistake?'

* DL have the use of Lichfield agents up and down the country for their spa applications.

* Clearly it would have cost next to nothing to make one simple call to them to ask beforeembarking on a hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds project to install padel courts upand down the country. It really beggars belief that such a large organisation with its extensivelyused planning agents did not make that one call to them.

* Moreover, a simple google search tells them that planning is needed for padel.

* Even the man on the street (yet alone a billion pound organisation with even bigger organisationbehind it - TDR Capital that I believe runs Asda) knows that flood lights require planning in ahitherto dark area. Are we really meant to believe that directors of a multi billion pound companyare that incompetent?

* However given that they had very close associations with the LTA (via an ex director Lloydhimself) this makes it even harder to believe. This organisation ( LTA) itself provides clear advice

that planning is required it is even harder to comprehend how they did this. DL have this closeassociation with the LTA they literally could have run a mate!

It's a national embarrassment or a deliberate ploy for the so called premier sports club.

What we do know is that DL's proudly announced determination to become the foremost padelprovider in the UK. It's easy to become that if you flout planning. In the meantime oddly it appearsthat their competitors seem to have dutifully made planning applications - some rejected . It easyto beat them when they abide by the rules,

Consideration has to be given as to why they did this without planning and whether it wasdeliberate. This puts a different view in this retrospective application.

They have made a mockery of the planning system in the UK and the head of DL should be madeto explain himself to the Minister responsible for planning. How can the public have any faith inplanning if DL get away with this lightly?

One more salient point: One would assume that any international padel provider would be awareof developments elsewhere in Europe especially in the Netherlands. I suspect that this is likely tobe a rule that would be adopted elsewhere. The Netherlands have engaged with severalindependent leading experts in padel noise which are available to be looked at by BCC planningespecially as no doubt DL will engage their noise expert to say no doubt there is no issues. Thiswas a special task force initiated by Dutch Tennis Association KNLTB and therefore highlyreputable. There were several noise experts engaged with this guidance as well as other experts.They estimate that each padel match is 20 db louder than tennis matches and in this instancethere is double the effect as one tennis court was replaced with 2 padel courts. As I understandmatters, the Netherlands now forbids any padel courts within 100 - 150 meters of housing.Theplan is to encourage a healthy coexistence between communities and padel.

These padel courts are well within 100- 150 meters of housing.Not nice for those houses yet alone the wildlife and insects they forage on who are impacted bynoise.

My own view is that when a government and authorities as reputable as the Netherlands havedone extensive work on the sound of padel this needs to be considered here over any individual

noise expert with his basic equipment.

Incidentally DL is also in the Netherlands so must be aware, one assumes of those rules as wellas the increasing need to use methods to silence the court. This includes sound absorbing barriersor different surfaces eg fibre glass instead of iron that vibrates less etc. That rule can into effect Ithink in October 2023.Although maybe they can say they had no idea a bit like planning for flood lights.

Finally , the statement made to the newspapers that a tennis court would require more lighting is Ibelieve a disgrace when I suspect that there was never any flood lighting there for tennis hitherto itwas a dark area. I have photos of the pre existing tennis court if required. I can't see anyfloodlights...? What was the point of that daft statement -along the lines of if we had had tennisfloodlights they would have been brighter? It's treating the public like fools and wrong.It is about aswholesome a statement as the DL suggestion that the car park proposed to be used for a spa wasonly infrequently used by staff.

As owner of a property on Lakewood Crescent , my objection is related to the negativeimpact such an extension would have on the environment of Badock's Wood, which is one of only11 parks and green spaces across the whole of Bristol (out of hundreds) which has beenassessed as meeting all 5 of these Local Green Space criteria;i. recreational value;ii. historic significance;iii. richness of wildlife;iv. beauty;v. tranquillityI believe that criteria iii and v especially would be directly compromised

Living close to David Lloyd Westbury, it's disappointing that a company that describesits self as "Europe's Premier health company" sort to install these paddle courts without obtainingthe necessary planning permission. It is also disappointing that whilst the site plans indicate localroads, they do not show local footpaths and in particular the footpath which runs along the SouthEast Boundary of the David Lloyd site, which had a line of trees and foliage, some of which hasbeen removed by David Lloyd during the installation of the Paddle Courts.The removal of the trees and foliage from this footpath has had an impact on the noiseexperienced by those walking along the footpath and the lighting is dazzling when walking alongthe path.There is no reference to the trees and foliage that has been removed in the planning statement, noindication that any survey was carried out to establish if any wildlife was habiting these trees andthe lighting survey does not appear to show the impact of the high power lighting on the publicfootpath and wildlife in the area.

The courts have been requested by members to be incorporated into the existing club;The padel courts provide significant enhancements to the existing sporting facilities on-site andsupport health and wellbeing;The Courts don't generate any noise over and above what would normally be expected throughthe use of the tennis courtThe new padel facilities are well located adjacent to the existing Club which provides ease ofaccess for members who are keen on accessing the new facilities; andIn terms of noise, Members tend to be conscientious and are aware of their surroundings.

It is clear from Google Earth imaging and from Google Landscape mapping that therewere/are trees, and a hedge, in very close association with the "new" boundary of this alreadycompleted development.The Westbury on Trym Society has submitted photographs of the situation showing severedbranches.I ask the Planning Officer to consult with the planning department's Tree Officers about the workthat was done to trees without planning consent, so that suitable mitigation can be enforced. Hadplanning consent been requested, one never knows, but maybe Bristol's planning policies onretaining green infrastructure might have been brought in to play, so that the damage caused bythe encroachment on green infrastructure need never have happened. Thank you

Dear All

Amazingly I see that planning have sent out notices to the care home residents andsupported living residents to the front of DL.Many will probably be too frail to comment but the numbers make it seem that peoplehave been notified.

However all the residents in the following cul de sac have not been notified. I attachmeasurement for illustration purposes. Some are just over 300 - 400 feet from thenoise!

I would suggest they they are told before there are complaints about nuisance inSummer

Also - the immediate neighbour have received nothing.

I strongly object to the proposal from DL club on the following groundsI would be affected as my house and garden backs on to the club, the existing noise from theplants is extremely excessive.In the summer months been on many occasions I have unable to enjoy peace in my garden fromthe social events.It would also devalue my property if I were to sell.It would create substantial noise and the quality of my life particularly from the garden. There hasbeen already many complaints made by the residents about the noise level and this extension willmake the noise worse.Communal fields will no longer a peaceful haven for people who go for walks.The nature path with the tree line from the south east of the property would be spoilt and disruptthe sanctuary of the wild life such as badgers bats etc.

As regular visitors to Badock's Wood and users of the pathway running alongside David Lloyd, wethoroughly object to retrospective permission being granted for this development.

David Lloyd, Westbury-on-Trym, sits next to Badock's wood, an ancient woodland and part of theQueens Green Canopy. The woodland extends along various corridors including along the side ofthe David Lloyd site. It is clear that when the original leisure centre development was givenplanning permission this green boundary was considered important and to be maintained. Theunlicensed development of the padel courts has broken this boundary and destroyed an area ofmixed native woodland. Native species of birds, bats and the local badger and fox population havehad part of their habitat destroyed. The once green wall is now an ugly patch of mud with thecorner of a padel court jutting into it and a piece of cheap fencing. The users of the path and localresidents have not been considered in this development.

Local nocturnal wildlife is also affected by the light pollution from the strong flood lights that havebeen installed.

The retrospective nature of their building application is hugely disappointing and sets a dangerousprecedent for construction and development more generally. Organisations should not be grantedpermission for their damaging building work AFTER they have completed it. To do so makes amockery of everything responsible companies and individuals are doing to nurture and protect thenatural world and the quality of our built environment.

We very strongly object to the new proposals from David Lloyd club, as immediateneighbours the existing noise from the industrial plant is already excessive and with additionalfeatures being built the collective noise pollution would be catastrophic for all neighbouringresidential properties and wildlife.

We have bats frequenting our garden and Baddocks wood all year round, the effect of the socialnoise and proposed led lighting would have a grave impact for the bats.

Badgers which have a free run in our gardens as well as the path alongside the David Lloyd cluband Baddocks wood. The proposal will create a massive potential problem for them, they areprotected species under the Wildlife country side act.

The Ecological impact of all the additional LED lights, paddle courts and spa would be a tragedyfor the animals and people for this area.

As immediate neighbours we have already dealt with the club for the noise pollution from socialevent countless of times and if Bristol City does grant them planning permission the noise and

serenity to the public, Baddocks woods as well as the neighbours would have a disastrous affectus all.

The Westbury-on-Trym Society

Proud of our past…. shaping our future

www.westburyontrymsociety.org.ukRegistered Charity Number 265486

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Photo 1: view of the south eastern end of the site where vegetation has been cut back

The Westbury-on-Trym Society

Proud of our past…. shaping our future

www.westburyontrymsociety.org.ukRegistered Charity Number 265486

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Photo2: another view of the south eastern end of the site with tree stump evident.

The Westbury-on-Trym Society

Proud of our past…. shaping our future

www.westburyontrymsociety.org.ukRegistered Charity Number 265486

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Photo 3: Cleared area on the footpath boundary taken from the public footpath leading toBadocks Wood

Before these padel courts were built the outside space beyond the cafe and bar wasdark and quiet at night times. There was very little lighting and little noise. In essence, it was awildlife sanctuary at night time with just the hum of a generator and the occasional splash from theswimming pool and the few adults swimming in semi darkness. The rear and sides of David Lloydhas a rural feel and bird song was prominent.

DL decided that padel courts were needed. The agent asserts that people at this DL the proposalsaims to address the request of members. This may be true ( I've seen no evidence) but a quicklook at DL complaints suggests that existing members are more concerned about DL being 'oversubscribed' and the impact it has had on parking at DL across the county. For instance, a DaleCurtis complained about this specific Westbury site 'this particular DL is always busy and it wasdifficult to find a parking space in the car park.' That was said months ago before the padel courtswere even built. It's in the DL reviews. DL just thanked him for his review. Without doubt parking isa huge issue for members (source DL complaints on Facebook). People generically complain thatDL is always full but still they 'cram' more members in. As one person said at Northwood theyhave 10,000 members but certainly don't have 10,000 car parking spaces. The car park at Dundeeis also disgraceful, cars parked dangerously. Newbury has had to introduce car park marshalling.Several people I know have personally complained to me about parking at DL Westbury. Onemember said she was thinking of parking at her work place next door but decided it would bewrong. She waited for a space. Another one said that she parked at the Greenway Centre. Thatwas 2 Fridays ago. Is this right and fair?

Members are also upset about the poor infrastructure and cold showers they complain about thatweekly.

People are also concerned and indeed have complained this week on Facebook - 'DL Complaints'about tennis courts being taken away and replaced with padel courts - 'after all it is a tennis clubnot a padel court club' some upset member remarked in Trafford. Someone was upset about whathad happened in Heston. In Exeter one person complained about losing their 'show courts'. YetDL have asserted in all planning applications that the members want these padel courts? Isn't thetruth they want to use them to attract even more members in a corporate greedy way to turn sellDL to the highest bidder? It is for sale.

DL did not make a planning application for these padel courts until forced to. However, I'm notentirely sure that DL have made application for padel across the UK - for instance was one evenmade for Southampton West End? Yet padel courts and flood lights are there? This is wrong verywrong to ignore planning like this. It seems to indicate a break down in planning awareness from amultibillion pound company who would have known better. It's not like they had had no previousenforcement issues before eg with a non planned car wash business in the car park etc. I firmlybelieve that this was no oversight given that they have Lichfields Agents working for them all overthe UK and had issues with planning hitherto! This was a deliberate policy I believe to get thr padelcourts installed speedily and hope to wing it.

If they get planning due to fait accompli, in essence this action has rewarded them as they havechopped down hedging and imposed lights in a way that I doubt would have been allowed hadthey not been erected beforehand. It will now be a brave planning office who disallows thisapplication as the padel courts are there.

Also only a few houses were notified yet this impacts more Southmead/ WOT as the lights can beseen from a distance. Why was that?

My objections are

* Lack of parking and traffic. I asset that David Lloyd has developed beyond the capacity of thecurrent site.

David Lloyd WOT already has insufficient parking spaces for existing membership use. Over thelast few years it has increased its membership from about 6000 to at least 7400. ( Source thegeneral managers bio) Members are parking on the grass verges, under trees and on the doubleyellow lines in the car park. This has been evidenced by photographs. Some people have evenbeen parking at the Greenway Centre. This situation has been caused due to the exponentialgrowth of memberships and loss of some parking spaces to a car wash business. It has also beencaused by DL's own business model in which it loudly and proudly proclaims to would be investorsand land investors that it wants to encourage a longer 'dwell time'. It's a life style club and it wantsits members to not only exercise there but remain to work and eat there. More dwell ensures more

loyalty to the club as well as more sales of food/ drink. Thus, several car parking spaces areoccupied by people on laptops all day. Tens of parking spaces occupied by people bedding in forthe day to do a bit of gym, spa and then hang around the cafe. Also DL loudly proclaim toinvestors how members once made 1.1 visit per week but one make 1.6 visits per week in manylocations and hence they have had to add in more classes in many locations. They encourage thisas it adds to food and beverage sales.

Given the number of members and their number of expected visits there is not enough carparking.

Members tend to drive and not to walk or cycle so there are a lot of cars.

*The ongoing existence of the padel courts have made a bad situation a dire situation. This isbecause the padel courts will act an additional attraction that will increase the membership,increase the flow of people and cars daily into the club. People will also be encouraged to stay ordwell longer and this will reduce the number of car parking spaces available to others. Moreoverthe padel courts have a social area that encourages people to arrive early and stay later to watchother people playing. They have even organised a social padel court group event. This is theirdetermined plan to expand the social area into the outside at night, Again this will significantlyimpact parking spaces available to other members and cause stress and endanger other membersespecially the disabled and young children with their inconsiderate parking eg in double yellowlines. Members park on the double yellow lines around the car park restricting visibility. Things willworsen in Summer when people cluster around the courts and stay for longer drinking beer etc.

Things will be extremely unmanageable/ dangerous to road users if DL was to hold padel courttournaments. This can never be allowed.

I believe that the padel courts should not be allowed unless more parking is found - if anything arear tennis court should have become a parking area for all the extra 'dwell time' they havecreated and loudly proclaim with pride and this particular tennis court remained as that. It is notright or fitting that a public community area acts as a DL overflow car park ( the Greenway Centre).

To members I would say don't even try to park on a Friday morning as things stand as you mightbe on the yellow lines or worse still in the Greenway Centre or just circling the car park.

*Detriment to health: The padel courts are actually detrimental to health. They have flood lightsthat create a light nuisance for the neighbours and impacts their sleep. They create or add to an

ugly urban environment in an area which had hitherto had a dark night sky and had a rear gardencharm. This is unpleasant for the neighbours and those walking in the area. The lights can beseen front the front and the rear. Moreover the flood lights also shine over the outside swimmingpool which is not pleasant for swimmers to have to swim in a neon glow. Neighbours in theircomments complain that they glare into their houses. It's not fair that an affluent social clubimpacts Southmead like this and further urbanises it.

Detrimental to the well being of young children The padel courts are also detrimental to the wellbeing of the young members of David Lloyd. David Lloyd has no non ' organised children's club'outdoor space. There is no playground and kids would use the tennis court to let off steams andrunaround. I believe that at least some 20% of members are children and there is no outdoorspace for them. - that's 1500 children approximately with no out door freely available space. Theyare not even allowed into the outdoor pool for many days in Spring and Summer but cooped up toplay inside.whilst their parents sip coffee and eat outside. Another area once used by kids is nearwhere the proposed spa is. That was once a children's allotment. As things stand, there is a tinyindoor kids soft play and that is it. It's not enough and kids literally run amok in the cafe with hotcoffees being transported. David Lloyd have this schizophrenic personality trying to be a familiesclub but then trying to appease adults and the result is a bit of a mess. The area would be betterused as a playground and if anything that would then not require nighttime lighting but that wouldnot attract the evening/ drinking/ socialising crowd.

* Wildlife: The padel courts have an adverse impact on the wildlife that surrounds David Lloyd. Thehedge that swept along the tennis court and past the swimming pool before going around HorsesField has been cut back and in places dug/ cut out. This hedge serves as an essentials extensionof the larder of Badock Wood. Friends of Badock Wood mention how the local widllife/ birdsextended their foraging immediately beyond. The flood lights will be detrimental to the habits andforaging of the local wildlife eg the bats. Even insects will be impacted as light impacts them andthis in turn will impact birds. There might be no crested newts but that's not what is at stake here.It's the encroaching urbanisation and loss of green corridor as evidenced by looking at googleearth photos of the pre existing tennis court.

*Noise: Considerably more noise is being created from 2 padel courts than from the pre existingtennis court. padel tennis is far noisier as the ball hits various surfaces far faster and ricochetsaround. There is a gun fire like noise which will be detrimental to wild life. Moreover the playerstend to grunt and shout in quite an excited manner. People play mainly in doubles so it's twice asmany people per court and twice as many courts. As DL's own literature states "if you even foundyourself wishing that your tennis game was more actioned packed ...." So they acknowledge thatpadel is far more action packed and I assert that with that naturally comes lots more noise.

There is also a social waiting area that will be occupied by people waiting to play or people who

have finished playing. I believe that the plan is to serve food and drink out there. This will createconsiderably more noise. Hitherto this area at night was dark and quiet. ( See above). In fact Ihave a copy of the padel court menu ( delivery only) how convenient for the players with their'padel favourites' and their cans of beer. Clearly by creating this social padel area and setting upweekly 'social padel' as they call it and it's on their app and doing padel food delivery they areencouraging people to congregate and they will not be doing it in silence especially with buckets of6 beers and beef-burgers etc.

The padel courts will not serve to help the local community. They will create no or few jobs as thebar staff can cope with the additional work as they are under-utilised at night. They will make thearea ugly / urban. The presence of padel courts will only make membership more expensive as it'sanother investment/ attractions that needs to be paid for by yet again increasing membership feesand will make access to DL less obtainable to the immediate local community. The Southmeadcommunity is within the 10% most deprived and 19 % received a means tested benefit . Incontrast, DL is doing very well loudly proclaiming its revenue growth up to £372.9 million.

Will planning conditions mitigate matters eg a condition that lights go off at a certain time? I don'tbelieve that planning conditions will help restrict noise or lights. Why... because BCC lack theinclination or will to enforce any. They don't enforce even breaches of planning like this veryeasily. Eventually with any planning conditions there will be lethargy creep and the lights will stayon longer and there will be drinking or party like activities in the social area. . Can planning insiston no food or drink to limit the area just to the game? No again there is no one available to enforcethis. The social area will increasingly encourage outside noise and the entire area will change.Why do I say this? Had DL not persistently breached planning rules it might be one thing. But DLclearly cannot be trusted to abide by rules. What organisation with all their on tap advisors builds 2padel courts, flood lights and a social area plus weird roof like canopy without planning. One thatfeels powerful and doesn't care two hoots about planning or one that is extremely and ridiculouslyinept to the point of stupidity, I know which one I think given past behaviour. It's a 2 billion poundcompany and it would have taken one phone call to check.

Conclusion

For years DL have been there and there were no lights allowed on the tennis court or anywherebut the front and a few to the rear. This development is a significant game changer along with theproposed spa to entirely alter and transform the nature of DL at night time from an internal nighttime area to an external area during nighttime as well. The thing is there was a reason why NextGeneration was built the way it was at the time with little light and nighttime noise disturbance.Those reasons still exist. DL I would suggest have flouted the rules or been highly highly negligentti spend tens of thousands of pound if not more and not to make a simple call to their planning

agents before building padel court/ flood lights etc.

Without doubt the site is too small for the attractions and number of members. It's literally burstingat the seams with members parking elsewhere.

DL cannot make the site bigger but it is clearly no longer suitable for them.DL are trying to pleasetoo many people, provide too many attractions, increase its dwell times and expand the clubbeyond it's natural limits. This impacts the neighbouring organisations with people even parking inthe Greenway Centre. That is simply appalling. The site is not suitable for padel courts. It is toosmall for their plans. For this reason enforcement action should be taken against DL.

Poor behaviour should not be rewarded

I object on the following ground:

- Noise and lightsThe flood lights and noise generated by the padel court will be a nuisance to neighbours as well asdetrimental to wild life.

- Parking spaceThere is already a lack of parking space, with people parking on the grass at peak time. Thisscheme is bound to make things even worth

Additionally, this planning application comes retrospectively, after David Lloyd went ahead withbuilding padel courts, cutting back and destroying an ancient hedge, which backs into a naturereserve.

I am writing to express my concerns regarding the proposed lighting for the outdoorpadel court as outlined in the recent planning application - albeit retrospective.

Disruptive LightingWhile I understand the need for adequate lighting for safety and visibility during play, it is crucialthat the brightness of these lights does not negatively impact the surrounding environment andlocal residents. The excessive lighting is leading to light pollution, disturbing local wildlife andcausing discomfort for nearby residents, particularly during evening hours. To make this clear I donot need to put any lights on in the bedroom to see what I need to do because the lights are sobright.

I kindly request that the committee ensures the lighting adheres to appropriate standards foroutdoor recreational facilities, balancing the needs of players with the wellbeing of the localcommunity and environment. Currently it is disturbing my quality of life. This is most prevalentwhen the lights are left on beyond 10pm (when the club closes) and my bedroom for sleeping is litfrom these powerful lamps.

PrivacyThe removal of plants and trees for the construction of the courts has lead to increased noiselevels and a lack of privacy. These green barriers not only provide a natural sound buffer but alsoenhance the privacy of the pool area adjacent.

I strongly urge the committee to consider incorporating a landscaping plan that includes thereplacement of any removed vegetation. This could involve planting mature trees and shrubsaround the pool area to help mitigate noise and maintain privacy - for those using the courts and

the pools. This is not simply because it is winter and the trees have lost their leaves becausevegetation has been removed.

Thank you for your attention to these matters. I trust that the committee will address theseconcerns in a manner that respects the balance between recreational development and thepreservation of our local environment and community comfort.

I am concerned that this is retrospective planning when this work was carried outwithout correct planning permission obtained.Even though my house is on the neighbour notification list I have not received any notification ofthis retrospective planning application.Although I do not have any objection to the extra courts, I am concerned with the social area aswe have had problems with excessive noise in the past.My main objection is in regard to the lighting, it is very bright and is on from dusk until sunriseevery day. Not only is this very annoying to my family to have a bright light shining through thebedroom window all night long, but also the waste of energy required to power these lights.We are also concerned with the light pollution aspect these lights cause.